Adding or Enabling Voice Control

[AlexWard]

I've just bought a 2009 3.0 S with the uprated B&W audio etc...

What i need to find out is if the Jaguar Voice is a separate module or a case of enabling voice via a laptop.

I have dealer level diagnostics at home in the form of IDS, as i have come from a Ford to the Jaguar and cut my teeth on diagnostics and module programming on Ford Denso units, bluetooth & voice control etc.

I;ve run an initial session on IDS on the Jag, but cant find the parameter for enabling Voice Control, which i thought the XF would have as standard.

I have read certain forum posts over the net relating to dealers turning this option off due to issues.

 

Therefore, can someone point me in the right direction as to whether or not its a separate module i need or to modify the CCF files to enable it.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Alex

 

[V6Leaper]

My 2011 3.0 D doesn't have voice turned on even though the buttons are fitted as standard.  As you say, the parameter setting must be isolated and you, like me cannot find this anywhere!  Perhaps what I was told at Hatfield Jaguar is true - that you have to purchase Voice from new as it comes as a unique fitting that cannot be added to.  That's what they told me anyway!  However, seeing as I now know that company don't always say it as it is, I would be interested if you do manage to succeed in turning it on. 

Regards

Graham

 

[Mark64]

HI, I've just purchased a 2009 XF Premium Luxury that has almost everything on it that I'd want except the Voice Control. I already have bluetooth phone connectivity and Satnav. I am surprised that Jaguar didn't fit this as standard but I suppose they had their reasons.

I want to retrofit the Voice Control Module and would like to know if it is possible and what parts would be required. Having looked around I think that I'd require a VACM and a 5 way D2B lead. Could someone confirm if this is correct and which VACM would fit.

If all of the above is possible then where is it installed, I guess that it is in the boot somewhere but would like to know whereabouts. I don't want to strip all panels out if I only need to remove one.

Any guidance or advice would be very gratefully received.

[Raistlin]

XF models changed optical network from D2B to MOST around about 2009 so you'd need to check which you have first.

[Mark64]

14 hours ago, Raistlin said:

XF models changed optical network from D2B to MOST around about 2009 so you'd need to check which you have first.

How would I know which system I have?

[Raistlin]

Disconnect one of your optical network connectors and take a photo and put it on this thread Mark. There are several of us who will be able to identify it for you :)

[Raistlin]

Here are a couple of pictures. The first is a D2B connector, the second is a MOST connector.

 

[Old_Growler]

On 2/8/2017 at 11:25 AM, V6Leaper said:

My 2011 3.0 D doesn't have voice turned on even though the buttons are fitted as standard.  As you say, the parameter setting must be isolated and you, like me cannot find this anywhere!  Perhaps what I was told at Hatfield Jaguar is true - that you have to purchase Voice from new as it comes as a unique fitting that cannot be added to.  That's what they told me anyway!  However, seeing as I now know that company don't always say it as it is, I would be interested if you do manage to succeed in turning it on. 

Regards

Graham

 

Mine has a separate voice module Graham It sits in the passenger seat  No buttons fitted as standard but it can be disabled using gaffa tape

[AlexWard]

I have a little more info for this topic, straight from the Jaguar Tech team as i have a friend who works in the R&D department @ Gaydon.

As follows...

"This is a very large task.

What you have is the MOST Gen 2.0 system. This means you need an external Speech ECU, wiring harness as well as CCF changes. You would need the JLR Integration team to respin a CCF based on your specific VIN.

My recommendation is the system is not worth the investment as even after you have done that the experience is far from natural speech - i.e. it is extremely prescriptive and very limited in functionality. I am also assuming your vehicle already has the microphone and associated harnesses."

What we do know is that Jaguar Voice was a £400 option at time of order, therefore, are we to assume that its a different Sat Nav module that allows Jaguar voice? I will look into this and feed any information back to the Forum. 

As most of the modules in the Pre face XF are FoMoco, its based loosely on the MK4 / 5 platform, albeit with MOST networks whereas the Fords are mainly CAN.

If i find anything definitive, i will let you all know

[AlexWard]

One year and 4 months after my first post...

 

Finally got Jaguar Voice enabled on my XF.

 

Massive thankyou to Reg Graham who has been offering advice and direction via E Mail (probably at his wits end now) and pointing me in the right direction with regards to the correct kit and programs to use.

I've temporarily lost bluetooth, which i remember i had an issue connecting to when i first bought the car, but more than likely its a little bit of over excitement when uploading the new CCF file this evening...

[borochris]

I would be interested to know what you had to do.

I am a new owner with a 2013 XF and was most surprised when the voice control did not work. Still trying to find out what all the abbreviations mean (as they are not in the abbreviation download) 

[Roy M]

Hi all, newbie here, I have a 2011 XF S Premium Luxury and  my voice control does not work! I spoke to Jaguar, gave them my VIN Number and they told me it was not fitted to the model?? I asked if it could be retro fitted and was told no, so I think that is that?

[Guest]

Hi Roy and Welcome to the Club,

That's odd as Voice was an option well before introduction of the XF.

Get in touch with Raistlin, if he does not reply directly to this thread, he can provide a definitive statement for you. He has posted many topics on the subject of Voice so you could also do a search one these as well.

Cheers,

Steve

[Raistlin]

Voice now works 🙂

Thank to Alex Ward and a little research in the interweb.

The procedure is ridiculously easy as well, notwithstanding the fact that a mistake could brick the car.

While I was looking at the CCF I noticed an entry to change the value of the CD player to one disk, Six disk. That will be my next retrofit.

[Kamran]

Hello and good afternoon all Jaguar owner, am proud owner of a 2007 XJ 2.7 executive. I thought mine was equipped with voice, the button exist on steering just for decoration😊. I am curious to know, the voice activation module. Can I ask how can I find out if my Jaguar has the module or not? Is there a place I can call to provide my Vin no and they can tell me, I'd it has the module or not.

2ndly regarding the connector MOST, is this fitted in the boot somewhere, I be honest I don't know much about car audio and I don't want to give my Jag to any car audio technician either. 

Can you suggest a Jaguar audio specialist that do not charge sky-high fees and are honest. 

Much appreciated 

Kamran 

 

 

 

[John Mac XF]

On 7/8/2019 at 2:03 PM, Raistlin said:

Voice now works 🙂

Thank to Alex Ward and a little research in the interweb.

The procedure is ridiculously easy as well, notwithstanding the fact that a mistake could brick the car.

While I was looking at the CCF I noticed an entry to change the value of the CD player to one disk, Six disk. That will be my next retrofit.

Hi could you please expalin the procedure.

[PaulT]

I had voice control on a Vauxhall Insignia. Numerous times the Sat Nav reacted by navigating to the village of Pucking Fing

[Raistlin]

On 4/10/2021 at 6:08 PM, John Mac XF said:

Hi could you please expalin the procedure.

Please be aware that modifying your CCF can render your car immobilized. Therefore the information provided is to be used at your own risk. All I am doing is telling you what I did to my car.

Assuming yours is a facelift X250, search the CCF for "Voice Control" and open the parameters. Choose "Advanced Voice Control" and save the CCF then upload it to your car.

Let us know how you get on 🙂

[martyn812]

hi can anyone tell me what module to look into to activate voice 2014 xf

[steeley]

hi all i'm new to this and  my name is paul and i have a 2018 jaguar xf with no voice, tried everything to grt it to say something but alas nothing, will no even give me map directions, be great if someone could give me a bit of help please, thanks 

[timfearns]

I have a Jaguar XF 2009/10. 

I have this problem.  No comms option on menu.  No Voice Control on anything.  bluetooth and phone working fine,

Ideally I would like a simple solution (e.g. download an upgrade and upload to the car - here is the explanation of how you do that).  Or failing that a detailed explanation of what needs to be done (e,g, go to a Jaguar dealer and suck it up).  Or failing that a suggestion of where I should look to find useful help, 

Does no-one on this forum answer a question with a helpful answer rather than a cryptic answer involving their two years of  struggling with the problem and exhibiting their detailed knowledge of all the unexplained acronyms which they have found along the way and still fail to explain? 

Thanks in advance for putting up with my rant.

[timfearns]

On 4/13/2021 at 9:33 PM, Raistlin said:

Please be aware that modifying your CCF can render your car immobilized. Therefore the information provided is to be used at your own risk. All I am doing is telling you what I did to my car.

Assuming yours is a facelift X250, search the CCF for "Voice Control" and open the parameters. Choose "Advanced Voice Control" and save the CCF then upload it to your car.

Let us know how you get on 🙂

I have an XF 2009 and I'm new to this.  If you could explain the following I would be very grateful.

1.  What is a "facelift x250"? and is it relevant/specific to your advice?

2.  What is a CCF?

3.  How do I "search the CCF"?  What equipment would I need to do so?

4.  What device do I "save the CCF" to?

5.  How do I upload the CCF to my car?

I understand that you may not want to waste your time answering newby questions, but it would be great if you could point me to a starting point for my investigations.

Thanks

Tim

[N6 JMX]

Hi Tim, I am not an expert on these matters, but given the basic nature of your questions and assistance seeking, I am guessing that neither are you.

The X250 is the model code for the steel bodied (early) Jaguar XF model between 2008 and 2014, as opposed to the X260 model code being for the aluminium architecture XF model introduced in 2015. Same car, vastly different. A facelifted X250 is still an X250, but Jaguar introduced many minor upgrades (facelift) during the period of production, typically each new model year (MY).

CCF = Car Configuration File and is a piece of software code / listing held inside the car's brain or module. Note there are lots of modules within a modern car, especially a Jaguar.

Using a laptop, Jaguar specific software tools and interconnect cables, a technician can plug into the car's modules and download / look at the CCF. What is contained within the CCF is a list of attributes for the car that can be turned on or off - if the first owner paid for the options of say Voice Control for instance, then it would appear as "enabled" in the CCF view. Using the plug-in connection from the laptop, the CCF can be modified, using the software tools, to turn on aspects that were not initially enabled - think differences between top of the range specification versus entry level specification - those attributes may well be in the car's brain from the get-go, just not "enabled".

Unless you are a computer savvy person, you need to locate a business in your area that works with these files and tools on a daily basis and, whilst it may be possible for someone with a lot more knowledge than me to produce a step by step guide, the chances of that guide being fool proof and readily assimilated and followed by anyone are miniscule.

Hope this helps, not for you to make the modifications, but to understand that the modifications are not that simple to make!

N6 JMX