2006 S-TYPE R unusual problem fixed !

[The Voices]

I have a high mileage, 2006 registered STR which has been giving me a great deal of enjoyment over the past 12 months.

If you have read my previous thread, you will know that I have been replacing the cooling system hoses as a precautionary measure.

Some of them have been put off due to how tricky they are to get to but I thought I had managed to identify most of the part numbers required.

 

My latest issue with the car caused some (initially) puzzling symptoms and revealed a potential issue with the Jaguar electronic parts catalogue.

I am posting this in the hope that it might help out other owners.

 

About a month ago my wife called me at work to say that she had a problem with the car, luckily it had happened very close to home so she had been able to park it outside the house.

The steering had become very heavy, initially worse when turning the wheel to the right and there was a cloud of 'smoke' from under the bonnet !

She had opened the bonnet and nothing was on fire (!) but she said there was what appeared to Oil on the underside of the bonnet and all over the engine covers.

All sorts of nasty possibilities ran through my mind and I spent an anxious few hours before I could finish work.

 

It was going dark by the time I got home so could only take a quick look which didn't reveal anything obvious, I decided to risk starting the engine just to put my mind at rest that it had not decided to throw a rod !

It started up straight away and ran smoothly, I quickly tried turning the wheel and discovered it was now very hard to turn in either direction.

 

Sue was able to drive the Impreza (under protest !) so at least she was mobile, which meant that I could look at the problem on my next day off.

 

On closer inspection, I discovered that a cooling pipe that runs from the thermostat housing, along the back of the radiator and to the supercharger coolant pump had come un-clipped (it fastens onto the plastic fan shroud with one metal spring clip)

This had led to it springing 'backwards' under tension and encountering the power steering belt !

The belt had them attempted to cut the pipe in half, the coolant then soaked the belt and caused it to slip and which then meant that it came to a virtual halt and stopped the power steering operating.

 

Now the fun really started !

I didn't have the time or the inclination to start 'kerbside mechanicing' it myself, the hose looked a pain to get at.

Couldn't drive the car so needed to get it recovered to either Kendal (my current Jaguar dealership) or Bolton (my previous Jaguar employers)

Luckily our Jaguar Master Technician has a proper twin axle trailer and a nice Range Rover to pull it (the 'vans with windows' do have some uses after all !)

 

We are currently in the midst of building our new showroom so space is really tight at work, not really an option to leave it on site for any length of time to further complicate matters.

 

It gets worse !

 

Tried to find the correct part on SNG Barratts website, nothing remotely resembling it anywhere, tried cooling, engine and any other section that might possibly show the hose without any success.

Not a problem I thought, the parts guys at work will no doubt find it in a jiffy ?

Unfortunately, not so !

They had exactly the same problem as me, it seems that 2006 STR's use a different thermostat housing to earlier ones and have the downward facing outlet as shown on my pictures.

 

At this point I decided to do a bit of lateral thinking, the supercharged 4.2 was used in the XJR until 2009, two years after the STR ceased production.

Back onto SNG Barratts website to study the XJ parts catalogue still no joy !

 

I eventually located the part number, C2C2469, showing as an X350 air con hose !

 

Possibly I am thick and everyone else has already found this part number but it came as a great relief when it arrived and was the elusive coolant hose.

 

The big cat is now back on the road, marital harmony is restored, the Impreza is sat sulking on the drive and all is well with the world !

Happy days.

 

Hope the part number helps someone out ?

 

 

 

[Claws]

Hi Jon

She really has been testing your patience over the last year, you've still got her so must be worth it?

regards

Steve

[JOE-DOT-COM]

Hi Jon

Yes that hose looks different to mine, 2004, mine uses a standard tension hose clip

looks like they updated them to a push fit one and retaining clip

I tried make a list of all the hoses on my 2004 STR and it took me ages find all the part numbers

I wist they did a kit with a full hose set for them, or even better a silicone hose set, that would be great fit and forget

next year I going to replace the valley pipe on mine, it had one a few years ago, so should be ok for a while

when i change the valley pipe, I going to go with Evans waterless coolant, I use it in my other car and dirt bikes and its brill

it never boils over, it lasts for years and years and there no pressure, you can take the expansion cap off while the fans are running, nothing happens, no water no pressure

cheers

Joe

[The Voices]

7 hours ago, Claws said:

Hi Jon

She really has been testing your patience over the last year, you've still got her so must be worth it?

regards

Steve

I love the STR to bits so just keep sorting out whatever goes wrong !

 

[The Voices]

1 hour ago, JOE-DOT-COM said:

Hi Jon

Yes that hose looks different to mine, 2004, mine uses a standard tension hose clip

looks like they updated them to a push fit one and retaining clip

I tried make a list of all the hoses on my 2004 STR and it took me ages find all the part numbers

I wist they did a kit with a full hose set for them, or even better a silicone hose set, that would be great fit and forget

next year I going to replace the valley pipe on mine, it had one a few years ago, so should be ok for a while

when i change the valley pipe, I going to go with Evans waterless coolant, I use it in my other car and dirt bikes and its brill

it never boils over, it lasts for years and years and there no pressure, you can take the expansion cap off while the fans are running, nothing happens, no water no pressure

cheers

Joe

At some point, I should do a list of all the part numbers that I have found so far, might help keep another one on the road !

[Russ68]

Good to hear from you again Jon! Nice to hear you're keeping her going and still having fun 

[The Voices]

Hi Russ, how can I stay away ? 'used' Jaguar world is addictive !

They are such good value once they get older and higher mileage.

 

I now think I need a cheap X350 XJ of some kind as well, there is a 200,000 mile XJR on Autotrader at £3250................................................

or a 3.5 V8 SE for £1500.....................................................................................

Both look tempting !

 

My new company car is the XE V6 'S' so living the Jaguar dream at the moment !

I really should get a job with Jaguar..............oh wait................I already did !

 

[Claws]

9 hours ago, The Voices said:

200,000 mile XJR

!!!! WOW  that's been around the world about 8 times (if I've done the maths right?) 

[Russ68]

Haha! I think you might be confusing 'need' and 'want', but I hear you Sir and more power to you! There was a beautiful 2005 XJR for sale locally recently, alu body, 400bhp, I was tempted, but resisted! 

[The Voices]

10 hours ago, Russ68 said:

Haha! I think you might be confusing 'need' and 'want', but I hear you Sir and more power to you! There was a beautiful 2005 XJR for sale locally recently, alu body, 400bhp, I was tempted, but resisted! 

Resistance is futile !

[The Voices]

14 hours ago, Claws said:

!!!! WOW  that's been around the world about 8 times (if I've done the maths right?) 

Barely run in !

Car is for sale at £3250, could probably own it for £3,000.

2003 model and not showing as a repaired write off, you pay your money....................................................

[Claws]

if ive found the same one (gun metal grey / cream leather?) she does look in pretty good nick I have to say with FSH as well,  how tempted are you?

[The Voices]

I was quite tempted until the price went up to £3950 !

[Guest]

On 10/16/2017 at 10:04 PM, The Voices said:

I now think I need a cheap X350 XJ of some kind as well, there is a 200,000 mile XJR on Autotrader at £3250................................................

or a 3.5 V8 SE for £1500.....................................................................................

Both look tempting !

 

Hi Jon,

Glad to hear you solved your immediate challenge and your STR is back on the road where it belongs. Regarding your hunt for an XJ; may be worth your while taking a look at some of the Classic Car auctions e.g. Brightwells in Leominster,. They regularly have a few Jags that go for reasonable money.

On a note related to your topic I was wondering if anyone has the part number, and can perhaps point to a supplier, for the hose that circulates coolant through the Throttle Body of a 3.0L S Type (the one I'm looking for is connected to the TB at both ends, not the coolant supply pipe)? Mine is currently 'fixed' with some electrical insulation tape which does the job on a temporary basis but I would like to do the job properly sometime soon.

All advice/ suggestions welcome.

Cheers,

Steve

[The Voices]

Hi Steve, the XJ idea is only a thought at the moment.

If I wait long enough, I will probably take one in part exchange at work !

Have you tried the SNG Barratt website / parts catalogue for the hose you are looking for ?

[Guest]

Hi Jon,

I've checked them out in the past but the hose I found there seemed to be the feed from the coolant system to the Throttle Body rather than the Re-circulation Pipe I am looking for. Will check again though just in case I missed something.

Cheers.