Jaguar XF ceramic brake pads

[Raistlin]

Does anybody know if Ceramic Brake Pads are available for the XF (2013 X250 3.0 Portfolio) please?

[Craighudson1]

Hi, you can get EBC red stuff pads, It sounds like you like to drive it fast so my advice is red stuff brake pads and drilled and grooved discs,

but most importantly copper grease your wheel nuts  I had to buy 12 new ones after I welded them onto the wheel studs

[Raistlin]

Thanks very much Craig. I'm not a fast driver (mostly) but I'm hacked off with permanent brake dust coated wheels and as well as being superb friction material. 🙂

[Craighudson1]

In that case Leave your discs standard and fit EBC RED STUFF pads they have low dust properties, but please do put copper grease on your wheel studs

[Wrinkly]

May be playing "Devils Advocate" but there is and has been for many many years a thread of thought that copper grease should not be used on wheel nuts. It is/has been suggested that the nuts can be overtightened due to the effect of the copper grease. Going back a few years (I am almost 72) it was never ever used on wheel nut threads because of the problem of over torqueing the nuts and fear of causing hydraulic affect in domed wheel nuts. The favoured approach was to thoroughly clean all oils, grease etc from the thread and keep them dry. The HGV industry is always warning that wheel threads should not be greased and always re-torqued after a few miles of use when wheel nuts have been newly re-fitted. I know the HGV industry and automobiles (cars) are totally different technology but the principal is the same in both.

I am not offering a definitive statement, just offering a different point of view. 

Best Wishes and Regards, John

[rodeyorks]

I have heard of copper slip on back of new pads to stop them rattling but certainly not on wheel nuts.

cheers

rod

[Chidders]

Used copper grease on the wheel nuts of my Range Rover a whileback.  Drove 3 miles and the nuts had all loosened sufficiently for the wheels to rattle.  DO NOT USE ON WHEEL THREADS ONLY ON THE RADIUS OF THE NUTS TO PREVENT WELDING TO WHEELS.

 

CHIDDERS

[Raistlin]

Returning to the original intention of my thread 😉  Nobody knows about Ceramic brake pads for the XF then?

[Bigvic]

Welding to wheels?

tell us more…

[Raistlin]

Craig, I've just found out that Redstuff pads are in fact ceramic. Sorry if I misinterpreted your earlier answer 🙂

[james cornell]

I have just fitted a full set of EBC RedStuff pads to my 2012 XF-S using Pagid solid discs and there is definitely less brake dust and a much better bite when the disks are cold (a disappointing side to the OEM pads)

 

they were £150 for all of the pads with next day delivery 

 

 

 

[Raistlin]

Thanks James, what are the diameters of the brake disks please?

[james cornell]

Fronts are 355mm

rears are 326mm

[Raistlin]

3 hours ago, james cornell said:

Fronts are 355mm

rears are 326mm

Thank you very much 🙂

[Craighudson1]

I think everyone has an opinion and nobody’s option is either right or wrong, which is why it’s an opinion,

in my opinion a smear of copperease   Which is an anti seize compound not a grease as such is a good option to do on any hub mounted surfaces and on wheel threads, I’ve never had any wheel nuts come undone and I’ve been in trade for 35 years,

[james cornell]

Generally speaking I tend to lubricate any mounting surface, especially when the mounting surface and the alloy wheels are made of different compositions (I.e. steel hub vs alloy wheel) and I apply the same logic when it comes to the threads that the wheel nuts bind to, as often is the case with Jaguar wheel nuts they flat their edges and cause issue at a minutes notice as it is so encouraging and further by leaving the thread dry doesn’t seem like a great idea to me…

however, that is only my opinion on my personal decision. I’ve never had any wheel nuts come loose, but I’m not saying it’s impossible. Make your own judgement and apply commonsense is probably the best thing to do when dealing with such a large heavy car.