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Hello I’m a new member . I’ve just purchased a 2009 Jaguar XF of which I’m very pleased.

there is no spare wheel so I purchased a secondhand one that came from a 2012 Jaguar.

The wheel doesn’t fit into the space designed for it in the boot, it’s too large.

I don’t know if this is a common problem and spare wheels come in different sizes for different aged Jaguars.

Do I really need a spare?

I would be grateful for your views.

regards.

 Malcolm.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Malcolm, you don't clarify as to whether you are talking about a full size road wheel as a spare, or a so-called Space Saver wheel.

If you are meaning a Space Saver, then these do come in different sizes, typically 18-inch and 19-inch to cater for the bigger brake callipers fitted to the more sporty versions.

As to whether you need a spare, then that is up to you and your peace of mind. From 2012, there was a change whereby the manufacturers were no longer required to provide a spare wheel, which meant of course that they didn't - saves weight and more importantly, for the manufacturer, cost. There was an interim period, where cars were provided with a can of spray-in solution (which is sold under a "best use by" date} and / or a compressor to plug in to the cigarette lighter socket. I don't believe that the XF was ever fitted with run flat tyres, but others on here may be able to confirm. Or you could look at your tyres - if they have "RSC" included in the multitude of writing around the sidewall, then someone in the past may have fitted run flat tyres.

There is a healthy aftermarket providing space saver spare wheels and Kwik Fit is an agency for one of the better options.

You have said the wheel you bought will not fit into the spare wheel well, but have you tried the spare wheel purchase on the car? Does it fit the stud pattern? Also, do you have a jack, wheel brace, chock, etc?

What size road wheels are fitted to your car can you advise?

N6 JMX

Posted

Jim many thanks for responding so promptly and comprehensively. The road tires are X1EX2E310 . 245/4 5R18 100 W tubeless. There is no mention on the tires of the letters RSC.
there is a compressor kit , but no jack Choc or wheel brace. Much to my embarrassment I should’ve looked at this when purchasing the car.

The spare which I’ve bought today says it can only go to 50 miles an hour it is a Pirelli 135/80R18 104m. The wheel  (not the tire ) measures approximately 19 1/2 inches, almost the size of the other wheels and the stud pattern appears  to be the same.

on balance I’d like to have a space saver wheel that fits the boot and gives me peace of mind.

any further comments when you have a moment would be gratefully received.

thanks and regards.

 Malcolm.

Posted

Hi Malcolm, so your road wheels / tyres are 18" and NOT run flat versions, so good so far. It sounds as though you have definitely purchased the 18-inch space saver spare wheel, which should be correct for your car. Presumably if it is a Jaguar version, based on your earlier note, so it should be painted red in colour?

So far that all sounds correct, so can't understand why it will not fit into the spare wheel well of your car. Under normal circumstances, the space saver spare should sit on the outer bottom shell of the well - probably on a couple of sound deadening pads glued to the bottom of the well. There should also be a bridge piece on the bottom in the centre, which takes the clamp to secure the space saver into place. It should be placed into the well so that the outer face of the wheel / tyre is downwards. It is then the case that the additional elements of jack, wheel brace, chock, etc. are arranged into a foam container that sits into the dish created by the downward facing space saver spare.

I am pretty certain that Jaguar only offered two sizes of space saver wheel, a 19-inch in black, which is needed to fit over the large callipers on the sports versions with the "big brakes" and generally with 20-inch road wheels. The other was the 18-inch version, painted red, for cars without the big brakes - like yours.

I think you will find that if you do hang on to the purchased space saver spare wheel, it is good only for 50 MPH AND a maximum of 50 miles range - after that it is effectively finished (the tyre obviously not the wheel).

Another check you may wish to carry out is to confirm whether or not your current road wheel / tyre fits into the spare wheel well. If it does, then you could consider sourcing another road wheel as all of your wheels will be identical - some cars have wider rear section wheels than is fitted to the front axle. If your current wheel will not fit into the well, then you will have another choice to make as if you did suffer a puncture, you would not have anywhere to carry the offending wheel whilst the space saver is fitted. This is a problem for cars that are outfitted with a factory suppled space saver and the solution is that a suitably sized bag / container needs to be carried into which the removed road wheel is placed so it can be carried somewhere on the car - typically the back seat. In the XK models, a road wheel will not even fit in the boot of the convertible, so the space saver supplied is actually of little use in reality.

Let us know how you are getting on, but not sure what else to suggest at the moment.

N6 JMX

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Thanks for all your very helpful advice. I ended up buying an 18 inch wheel including the jack et cetera for £110 from a breakers in Edinburgh . I then had the wheel checked for fitting et cetera by a local tire company. The wheel only just fits and it’s a very tight squeeze in the boot. But I’m happy to have a spare so very pleased with the result.

Regards.

Malcolm.


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