buying Xtype diesel

[alan1989]

Yeah you are

[msmicksmith]

If you find a car with around 100k on the clock for about £3500 without a fault you'll be very lucky.

There are hundreds of X-Types out there that fit your criteria but expect a couple of issues.

I paid £4k for mine with 101k on it and so far I've fitted 2 tyres, front discs and pads, Oil and all 3 filters which were all in need of replacing. (Discs were knackered!) After that I've since fitted front and rear anti roll bar bushes simply because I know it to improve the handling as the old bushes are weakened, although they would have carried on for several more miles. By the same token I'll be doing the anti roll bar drop links in the next few weeks just to get it done rather than wait for the imminent knocking/rattling and just to get it up to a the standard I want I'll replace the rear discs and pads soon too, although they would be perfectly good for another 15k or so

Mine had a decent service record and is pretty much mint so has been obviously well maintained but I didn't expect perfection and factored in a few hundred quid to be spent after I'd bought it.

If you buy a decent X-Type with a decent history you'll get a car that once you sort the minor niggly bits out will be one of the most reliable cars you'll ever own (as long as you maintain it properly of course). By comparison, my Renault Laguna of similar mileage etc was a total money pit!

[alan1989]

http://m.gumtree.com/p/jaguar/jaguar-x-type-sports-premium/1048917670 I saw a few more on Gumtree

[Old Peter]

Yes, some good cars there  --- some dealers put cars on Gumtree but they must be thoroughly looked at.

 

I have had a quick look and there are a few I would look at if there was a good service history and the stock replacements [cam chains etc] have been done.

 

There was one which attracted me with 103k on the clock --  2007 year  -- which had done 15k a year, It was in Hockley.

 

Regards,

 

Peter.

[goldtop]

Thanks guys.. I'm learning so much, your all a great help.. thank you!!

[msmicksmith]

Anytime. Glad to help  :D

[goldtop]

Please tell me.. what is the difference in body work shape with the X Type Sport?
For example I love this car here, but u cant work out what is different to look at, if anything? Ha..
Is there?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201403052272087/sort/default/usedcars/price-from/3500/model/x-type/price-to/4000/radius/1500/page/2/postcode/gu48lw/fuel-type/diesel/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/colour/black/make/jaguar?logcode=p
 

[Old Peter]

Hi, Dave,

 

I think the only exterior difference between the Sport and the SE is the grill and the grill surround.

 

there are some interior ones more or less to do with the trim.

 

Otherwise they are identical.

 

Regards,

 

Peter.

[goldtop]

oh really... i just sensed there was more skirt and general sporty looking things on this car in the link above? but that must be my eyes... :)

Thank you Peter, that's good to know..

[msmicksmith]

I have the 2.2 Sport. The difference is the rear boot spoiler, side skirts, front grille (stainless mesh), 18" Aruba alloys instead of 17's, and the suspension. It's lower and stiffer.

The engine is identical so no actual performance gain but the ride is firmer and handling is sharper.

The Sport Premium has all of the above except it has different, more solid looking 18" alloys, the grille has the solid vertical ribs and it comes with the display screen/satnav as standard.

That one you're looking at on Autotrader is a Sport due to the grille and alloys. The satnav screen is an optional extra on that model, as was (believe it or not) aircon! Hence the sunroof. Check it has aircon if you want it as it may not have had it fitted from new

[msmicksmith]

Mine has that too. Black half leather also.

Took me 12 months to find the right spec!

[goldtop]

great thank you Mick.. are the skirts bigger then?
Do these changes apply to the 2.0 d Sport as well?

and also what is the difference in the 2.0d SE?

 

Thank you so much for your help... I really appreciate this..

[msmicksmith]

Sorry, I didn't mean to quote about the side skirts. They are the same on all models. They aren't actually skirts, they are sills, although they aren't like normal sills. Normal sills are formed to make a complete panel. These are just an outer skin and you can put your fingers up the inside. 

 

The 2.0D is the same as the 2.2D in terms of trim. Only difference is the engine and gearbox. Obviously, the engine difference is only the cubic capacity, being 200cc smaller.They are fundamentally the same engine, just different capacity. The main difference is the gearbox. 2.0D has a 5-speed, 2.2D has a 6-speed.In general, the fuel economy is slightly better on the 2.0D, but it's only 2-3mpg in real terms. I still get 43-48mpg out of my 2.2D and I've had it remapped to 200bhp

[msmicksmith]

The Sport and SE are different specs. The Sport is the only one to have the larger wheels and the lower, firmer suspension. The SE has standard suspension and the smaller wheels. The SE though will come with more interior features as standard. Can't remember exactly which, but generally it's a more 'luxurious' model whereas the Sport is.... erm..... sportier! ;-)

[goldtop]

This is so helpful, thank you very much Mick!!! 

[msmicksmith]

The SE was also discontinued in favour of the Sovereign. Plenty of models and specs and remember that each model had it's own list of factory fitted options too, so you can find pretty much any model with any spec you want. There are literally thousands of them out there. I hunted for a long time to find mine but it was worth the wait

[msmicksmith]

Try this - http://www.jaguarownersclub.com/forums/topic/9684-range-brochure-specs-and-options/

[goldtop]

Thanks again with all this info Mick.. Great great help!

Please can you tell me why people, say the X Type is related to a Ford Mondeo? is this a joke because of looks or a technical things I should update myself on? Ha... (I'm learning)

[msmicksmith]

20% of the X-Type is Mondeo based. Both diesel engines are Ford powerplants. Brakes, bearings, hubs, certain suspension components, ecu and related electronics are all Ford.

It's a bit of misunderstanding (or ignorance) that many people say, "It's only a pretty Ford", or, "It's just a Mondeo."

A chunk of it is bog standard Ford Mondeo, but the rest is most definitely Jaguar.

I have the 2.2D Sport and my best mate has a Mondeo 2.2 ST TDCi. Identical engines. As lovely as his Mondeo is, it's no Jaguar! They are worlds apart and given that much of the suspension etc is identical on his ST, it doesn't ride anything like my Jag. Even the sound the doors make when closing or the clunk of the central locking. The Mondeo is definitely behind the Jag in the prestige and build.

That said, when it comes to running costs, because a huge chunk of what would usually need replacing is Ford based, it's cheap as chips!

[msmicksmith]

Also, don't forget that Jaguar is owned by Ford

[goldtop]

Ha...this is great!! Good to hear and know, thank Mick...This is so the car I need and want, and I bet you cant believe I haven't even driven one yet...
 

[msmicksmith]

I found this for you.

http://www.scotsman.com/motors/reviews/jaguar/x-spots-the-marque-1-2656362

[msmicksmith]

I believe you. I new exactly which model and what trim it had to have and I hadn't even seen one in a showroom!

Absolutely chuffed with mine. It had to be the 2.2D Sport, and I wanted one that stands out from the crowd and in the Ultraviolet colour with the Sport 18" Arubas it does exactly that!

Also had to be black half leather interior with the piano black fascia. Cruise control was must too. Took 12 months to find it but so glad I waited!

Since remapping the ecu it pushes most bigger engined cars out the way now. Even embarrased an XF!

I've been slowly replacing the suspension bits too. Front and rear anti roll bar bushes, anti roll bar drop links, front discs and pads, all the filters. All genuine Jag parts toi except for Febi-Bilstein drop links.

After all this it drives like brand new and has arou d 420Nm of torque so pulls like a train!

[goldtop]

hey thanks for the vid clip Mick..
I just want it Black and Sport with 18'' wheels, and preferable black leather trim.
Anything esle like sat nav and more extras a bonus but not a deal breaker...
Thanks again mate

[msmicksmith]

I didn't watch the video. Is it any good? I meant the article. It covers quite a lot about the X-Type