Hi, thanks Russ! I thought I wasn't going senile... :-)) The odd thing is, I am looking at S types on Auto trader, and quite a few that are listed as manual have the J gate, and in some pics you can even see the 2 - not 3 - pedals on the floor; ergo... auto not manual. The one that is doing my head in, is the one I may end up purchasing soon (with a following wind and some kind of transport back in action) has that J gate, can't see the pedals in a pics., but it listed as a manual. Now when I fed the registration number into the insurance system, it came back with S Type V6 3 litre.... manual...! I should be able to solve the mystery, all being well, when I get to see the car, hopefully tomorrow or day after. I am waiting for my 'other car' to have its clutch replaced (blew it spectacularly weekend before last). One thing I have discovered - no Haynes Manuals that I have located so far for it - even a secondhand one would do, just to get me familiarised with the car. Thanks again for confirming what I was pretty sure was true. Alex.