trevor, the one in the xk is very basic to say the least, the thing is easy to operate, but wants to take you the wrong way all the time. in september down in the blackpool area finnished me with it, it kept trying to take me to lancaster, i know peter might like that, and it looked quite a nice town centre, but i was fed up driving through the place, mostly one way(maybe it was trying to gide me back to bonnie scotland) i find it dated to say the least, and was determined not to give mr TATA any more of my money for an update disc. i am saving that up for my cousin in germany, his first name is MERC last name BENZ . regards charlie