I think that was what they call a storm in a tea cup! I'm not offended about the "scrap it" or "banger" comment and my Jag cant read so it's all fine. Thanks to all for your comments, the solution was charge the battery. !Removed! obvious really but it often helps to get a different perspective. Unfortunately though the initial problem was not solved by changing the throttle body. The problem is it does not tick over well. It starts fine then settles down to about 700 rpm then ticks over erratically, sometimes even stalls. When driving it purrs along what ever speed or rpm I want until I go slowly down hill, being an automatic, when I put my foot on the brake it sometimes wants to stall again. Any suggestions ??? Sam