Thanks for the tip Lord H But I substituted matches for a space heater,that got it hot a little more under control,then gave the offending hub a clout with a small hammer, I am 60, and low and behold the blighter came out.Same thing on the ball joint,,now I am eagerly awaiting the prerequisite parts to reassemble the front suspension, I have done both sides.,will pop,down a local engineering place to use their fly press when bits turn up.Mike